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04
2011
Father Barron on „Slumdog Millionaire“ (SPOILERS)
Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Father Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture.
Video Rating: 4 / 5
This is Dharavi, Mumbai’s largest slum, and it’s about to change forever. Once a mangrove swamp on the edge of Mumbai, more than one million people now live in these five-hundred-and-fifty acres. The residents of Dharavi are representative of India’s larger poverty problem. This Stanley Foundation video was filmed in April 2008.
I don’t know… I see people who spend their life suffering and never get their happy ending, is it because they didn’t recognize the opportunities God was presenting them? Anyway, I pray God to light the way so I can follow the path he has builded for me
Its been a great week here in Ireland. Our new priminister finally gave the pope a proper going over re: the lies, cover ups, and ongoing abuses of the catholic church in relation to innocent children. Telling him that the rule of law supercedes canon law. Not being from Ireland, you would never appreciate the control the church had on all levels of government, the police, and everyday people. The church was never questioned and we have a history of destroyed lives because of blind faith!
bravo !
@gmayer66 One last comment: I’m not comfortable with the term „closet atheist“ I used in the beginning of my response, and for this I do apologize (youtube will not let me edit the comment). But I do maintain that a claim to know God’s plan for oneself is an untenable theological position. Unless we know God’s plan for us, we cannot make judicious use of the „parcels“ he sends in our way (e.g., in Fr Barron’s analogy to the Cast Away movie).
@gmayer66 On most issues, certainly eludes both the religious and the atheist. We can be certain on some issues. On others we cannot be certain. The most difficult part is that we cannot always be certain on what we can be certain or not.
Neither religion nor atheism buy you a solution to Man’s epistemological problems.
@gmayer66 An atheist believes neither in God nor in God’s divine plan. To the religious, there is a general religious framework in which to live one’s life (e.g., Catholicism), but he too has no access to the divine plan. Religion doesn’t give you religious certainty. To a religious person, religious certainty is a devil’s trap of using a person’s arrogance to mislead him to think he can know what God has in mind.
@gmayer66 Not knowing what God’s specific plan is in any specific case, not knowing if He plans for us to live, die, suffer or enjoy an easy life, we are forced to religious humility of not being able to refer to the details of God’s specific plan. When people think they can know what God wants in their own lives, they are forced to renounce their faith when they suffer and cannot find what piece of the puzzle they’d missed. Job is comforted only after admitting that he doesn’t know God’s plan.
@WKRPinCINN Don’t worry. Fr Barron is probably a closet atheist. Anyone who believes that God gives us everything we need in order to live out God’s plan, isn’t saying much: (1) We don’t know what God’s plan is; (2) Many deeply religious people simply perish under the most horrible circumstances. Either you are going to fault these many good and religious people for not having understood God’s plan, or you are back to 1:
@WKRPinCINN I admire your candor and humility (at least in this last posting), though I am more in sympathy with Jim1905′s arguments. But I thank you for reminding me that there’s more to vlogging than „passion and fight[ing] with teeth.“
@Jim1905 – jim, if you think that i am pretentious and arrogant when i state my opinion (or ridicule) i cant disagree with you. but i would ask you to consider the fact that we may BOTH suffer from the same defect of character. i will say this, you have passion and fight with teeth. but for all of your effort, you haven’t swayed or convinced me that anything i’ve said in my original post was inaccurate.
- if you want to respond to this to get the last word in, feel free. i’m done. goodbye.
@WKRPinCINN
lol, wow tell me, as you put it in caps, do you know objectively that there is no absolute objective P.O.V? I mean, we should all be thankful that WKRP has risen above the rest of us (and our P.O.V). to glean such wisdom. Oh and ridicule is not an argument!
@Jim1905 – to answer your question: no, i do NOT know that people who know „the absolute truth“ are corrupted. and i never said that i did. i will state again, as this simple fact seems to be alluding you jim, that what i write is only my opinion and not fact.
and although you may think its foolish, objectivity is subjective depending on how you define objectivity BECAUSE THERE IS NO ABSOLUTELY OBJECTIVE P.O.V.!
jim, go grind your inferiority complex ax against some other poster, i’m bored.
@WKRPinCINN
Let me get this straight you make an argument that religion is outdated, using mostly sophistry and then say that your way is better and that people who know the absolute truth are corrupted, I wonder if you know that absolutely. Then you make the utterly foolish claim that objectivity is subjective! Of course the real killer is the „just my opinion“, not everything is an opinion, whether or not objectivity is subjective is an opinion but an objective claim!
@Jim1905 – no, i didn’t TELL him not to comment back, I asked him not to (big difference). and yes, i STILL CONTEND that religion is an outdated superstition corrupting people with false ideology and impossible promises. the shame of it is that spirituality is an innate need & desire of every person, so it makes me mad when i see intelligent people corrupted into thinking they know „the way“ or „absolute truth“. that is what people are corrupted by. objectivity is subjective, just my opinion.
@WKRPinCINN
You see the best part about this is that we can look back at what you said “ please don’t write a comment in return to this“. So yeah you did tell him not to comment back. Also for an opinion you seem to think that religion as an outdated superstition is a fact. If it’s really just an opinion then what objectively is he or any other christian being corrupted by?
@wordonfirevideo – i have watched them, it might surprise you to find that i enjoy a lot of them. but what i said before still remains the same. — i never said that you cant say anything in return; but i will reiterate that what i said is only my opinion; no matter how firmly you believe (or know) what you choose to believe is God or Jesus, it is only you opinion as well.
@WKRPinCINN So you can say whatever you want, and I can’t say anything in return! Friend, take a look at my videos on the existence of God and then we can talk about whether belief in God is a „superstition.“
it is a shame, an intelligent and insightful man like barron corrupted by a belief in god founded in such an outdated and limited viewpoint. it is such a waist to see outdated superstition taking hold of a modern mind. — please don’t write a comment in return to this, as it is only my opinion and not a fact. please don’t try and convince me that your opinion is more valid or real than mine.
@bloodr0cuted Are you being led along a path that makes you more or less loving? Answering that question will tell you whether you are following God or something else.
How can I tell when I am following providence and when I am falling off course?
Real life doesn’t work like the movies.
These are films – not the word of god. Films about the human spirit – like castaway – survival, tenacity, luck, guts and determination and an intelligence evolution gave us – to link them to god is to miss the point – that all the qualities of man are natural and evolutionary. All the works of man, the art, the poetry, the beauty, the design, the architecture and yes, the cruelty and the arrogance are part of us – evolution equipped us to strive and survive and we have without a deity.
„It is a drawn freedom, a lured freedom…“ It sounds like Father Barron a compatibilist.
Favorite movie of all time, didn’t think I’d ever see a Catholic response. Very heartening; like I said before great work, love to see you keep it up!
Why would anyone blame something that doesn’t exist? People blame the people who came up with the idea of gods, and then wasted our precious time on Earth talking about them and what they would permit or not if they existed. My own time-wasting here a fine case in point:) But anyway, if I run into that history book of yours, I’ll probably read it. Good day.
@basque777 Was this south or north India?
everybody hating dirty 3rd world indians and paki woman
I live in India and I don’t think these people in slums are happy. They see the middle class people all around them and they are desperate to get out of the slum.
I don’t understand how these americans assume they are happy. Just because they say they are happy and smile for the camera, doesn’t mean they are.
@QuanticIllusion , so typically naive….
@rajroy04 America is also a land of rags and riches. Americans make so many films portraying their own country in that way and India is just a more extreme example of the same thing.
@Jonsbk Well said, I’m a U.S. native and most people from India I know speak english better than me. By that I mean their more correct with their grammer. They are also are repectful, and they address you as sir, or brother
mumbai is nothing but a piece of trash. Terrible garbage city…
I visited India last year. Everywhere i went, there were little children begging for coins and homeless people scattered on the streets at night. Place is dirty and corrupt as shit. I felt so sorry for the people there.
@superking445 If you live in the US, all I can say is…COMING SOON!!
@Jonsbk Right On Brother!!
The worlds most disgusting useless third world arrogant abusive shitsmelly thrashole!
Mumbai should be renamed to Slumbay! what a shit hole!
MOST OF INDIA IS MADE OF SLUMS. THE UN ESTIMATES THAT MORE PEOPLE IN INDIA LIVE IN COMPLETE POVERTY THAN THE WHOLE OF SUB SAHARAN AFRICA. INDIA IS TRULY THE SLUM CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
Of all the beautiful places all you foreigners somehow manage to find out in India are slums or brothels in cities, cockroaches in trains, beggers/half naked children in stations. Once in a blue moon some upstart american come to India to shoot these scenes of misery only to earn recognition back home..be it slumdog millionaire or born in brothels…and all it does in turn – it further establishes the myth that India is among westerners – „a land of rags and riches“ …such a fucking cliche..
India is so disgusting, where is god?
My GOD!!! ASIA’S LARGESTS SLUMS!!!!!!!
This is the real INDIA. PLAGUED BY : POVERTY, FOOD SHORTAGES, HOMELESSNESS, UNEMPLOYMENT, RELIGIOUS RIOTS. I AM SO GLAD THAT I DO NOT LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD NATION.
factory of diceases ,,,,,,,,,,india
People are complaining that these people are not happy, believe me that they are living more of a stress free life than say US or UK or even Australia and Canada. They dont worry about taxes and Further income and what not, 2 dollars a day is about 90 to 100 rupees, which can buy them the food they need, they just eat less. im not saying we shouldnt do anyhting beacuse it is bad that they can live bigger dreams its just that not ALL of them are misreble.
1.take a deep breath
2. think of someone u like
3. press F10 5 times
4. send this to 5 youtube videos
5. look at ur backround
Any notice that the streets of Indian cities look like in „normal times“ what Japan’s towns and cities look like after they were devastated with that massive earthquake and massive tsunami?
@superking445 In the ancient period, Indian culture, Hinduism, Sanskrit, literature, beliefs and regime used to have influences on South East Asia.
@eastasiapower – No, not fuck India, we like fucking in India!!! Fuck fuck fuck!!!
THIS IS THE REAL INDIA. FILLED WITH POVERTY AND JOBLESSNESS. I DONT KNOW WHY INDIANS THINK THAT THEY ARE THE KINGS OF SOUTH ASIA.
well, in buenos aires there are a lot of big slums, bolivian peruvian and paraguayan people live in them, it’s really sad to see those people living on that way