Exxon Montana Oil Spill Lies
Exxon Mobil told several lies regarding their oil leak in the Yellowstone River in Montana. Michael Shure explains. The Largest Online News Show in the World. Facebook: www.facebook.com Subscribe: bit.ly TYT Mobile: bit.ly Twitter: twitter.com www.theyoungturks.com FREE Movies(!): www.netflix.com Read Ana’s blog and subscribe at: www.examiner.com Read Cenk’s Blog: www.huffingtonpost.com
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The site of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, which began April 20, 2010 with the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, continues to be monitored daily by NASA satellites. A selection of those images captured over the past year by the MODIS instrument on board NASA’s Terra and Aqua satellites have been compiled for this timelapse video.
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What’s mine—is yours—it’s all free
Please honor this gift.
—Planet Earth
Suck balls
@dragonflychainsaw I think our only hope is to vote based on who you can tell is telling the truth and who has honest to good true intentions, rather than who is a member of your political party.
@MyTemporaryAccount88 i live here in billings montana n im not „red“ neither is the rest of my family we take part in voting but u want us to suffer? well u seem like a perfectly reasonable human being p.s. u should study montana politics b4 makin comments like this about it
A big oil company lying about environmental risks? *gasp* I would NEVER have seen that coming!
@underbjorn In a free market Exxon would likely be a far smaller company because it wouldn’t have its violent partner the Government regulating its competitors into bankruptcy and/or discouraging new competitors from entering the market in the first place
Also, in a free market, it’s not true that every competitor strives after maximum profits. A truly „free“ market means they can strive after whatever they want. I think you are confusing Neoclassical Economics with Austrian Economics
@elfornse —
You always go from a point of profitability when you discuss the free market since every competitioner strifes after maximal profits and acc to the free market philosphy that is only possibloe with rational efficiency.
Damn you are uneducated. Oil drilling demands major capital input because it costs to construct oil rigs, buy oil fields, buy drilling towers. But sure, put up a bamboo shop and let’s see how you compete with Exxon.
Same with banks, start capital in liquidity.
@elfornse —
The free market needs rational individuals with a clear picture of what is the best for themselves and then buy it. You have ofc never heard of the term homo economicus or in English „economic man“, but in academics it is fairly wellknown.
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Well it’s easy to look at the 1929 bourse crash which happened with absolutely zero regulations, people could borrow and lend exactly how much they wanted and thus speculation disconnected prices with their real value.
@underbjorn I didn’t mention profitability. You stated that oil drilling „demands“ major capital input. I simply proved to you that it doesn’t. Besides if I lived on some land with bamboo poles everywhere and I had oil directly underneath me, maybe bamboo poles would be the most economical way for me to extract it. How would you know?
And what major capital input does a bank need? A bank is nothing more than a financial intermediary. Your wallet could be a bank but the Govt would arrest you
@underbjorn The philosophical backing of a free market is the ability for people buy and sell without resorting to, or being affected by force or fraud. It makes no presumptions and gives no prescriptions about the issue of knowledge. People are free to buy things that are uneconomical if they choose. They can buy with no knowledge if thats what they want. Your analysis is entirely incorrect.
Since we don’t have a free market, or anything close, where are you sourcing your „upheaval“ story from?
@elfornse —
Well since you have no academic education it is clear you wouldn’t know that the philisopical backing for a free market is that the customer has full knowledge of which product is economically most reasonable to buy.
But since you are an ignorant idiot as many of you cowboys tend to be, you have no clue.
When a free market business srews up, it can mean upheaval on the market whilst directors walk away with hundreds of millions and a burden for society.
@elfornse —
So you are meaning that economically effective and profitable drilling will be with bamboo sticks in the year 2011? Then you shouldn’t bitch about being knocked out by competition. Uneducated plantation owner. go read your Bible and other stories from the bamboo era, welcome to the 21st century.
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You want society to go back 2000 years just to abolish government? I mean, you are so reactionary it is sickening, I’ve never heard somebody like you.
@dangerouslytalented Unfortunately people are dependent on Govt regulators to alert them to Ponzi scheme’s like Madoff’s and to prosecute fraudsters
Problem: Govt regulators don’t go broke if they screw up
Solution: Instead of Govt regulators, competing private certifications agencies, competing dispute resolution organizations, and competing insurance companies, coordinate their services to ensure no Ponzi schemes operate. If they screw up, they go bankrupt ie strong incentive to not screw up
@elfornse Madoff had a GREAT reputation right up to the point where everything collapsed. Benny Hinn has a GREAT reputation amongst his followers, as a great healer, although he heals ABSOLUTELY NOBODY.
@dangerouslytalented Everyday people don’t have to be experts on jack shit. Everyday people simply need to look at which businesses have the most satisfied customers and which have the best reputations. You go where people come out with a smile, and avoid where people come out with a frown
Keep in mind that when a free market business screws up, they go out of business.
When a regulator, or a politically connected corporation screws up, they get handed stolen money from the Govt
@underbjorn „Demand Major Capital Input“?
Wikipedia
-“The earliest known oil wells were drilled in China in 347 CE. They had depths of up to about 800 feet (240 m) and were drilled using bits attached to bamboo poles.
-“Benches were used as desks or exchange counters during the Renaissance by Florentine bankers, who used to make their transactions atop desks covered by green tablecloths“
Hey I guess you’re right…. bamboo pole’s and green tablecloth’s are really fucking expensive these days
@elfornse It is MUCH easier to fool the general public than it is to fool a regulator. That is how scams work. Take any ponzi scheme, all they have to do is make up a lie that convinces enough people, or a magical cure that convinces enough people. You are relying on everyday people being experts on everything, on knowing enough about medicine to know when a doctor knows what he is talking about, enough about cars, finance, construction, EVERYTHING.
@dangerouslytalented As I’ve been hammering for the past few posts seemingly without much success, in a free society, businesspeople must comply with the regulations of their customers. They do not need to comply with the regulations of corrupt, thieving, and self-serving politicians
In that regard, which business would I prefer to go to:
1. A business that needs to satisfy me, or
2. A business that needs to satisfy corrupt, thieving, and self-serving politicians?
Ill take option 1. And you?
@elfornse —
„I just don’t understand how you reach the conclusion that things are worse without Government.“
Now I am aware in the U.S, „Government“ means so much more than in the rest of the world, but imagine a society without the government.
What would it look like to you? Fucking rainbow utopia with the BP oil spill magically drained up by God?
@elfornse —
You do realize that even without any kind of regulation, oil drilling, hospitals and banks demand major capital input.
You wouldn’t get anywhere unless you were ALREADY rich regardless of regulation.
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In a functioning represntative government, which the U.S thanks to subventions to those that does NOT need it and cuts to those that DO need it, is not, regulation applies proportionally to all and thus inequalities between same-merchandise competitioners is levelled out.
@elfornse —
You do realize people aren’t exactly allknowing brilliant super-calculators?
Your ismplistic model is common for free market drones, you avoid the part that true ideologically coherent market liberalism demands the customer has full knowledge of the value and utility for a product to compare with another and see which one is economically best for him to buy,
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There is no such thing, if people knew how Walmart’s products were created, they’d vomit.
@elfornse —
Get this, socially acceptable is relative to a given society and its’ political climate, I understand that in America everything is up for sale and the rich will live like kings while the poor toil and starve, that’s how it goes when money prevails over egalitarianism.
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In my country, roads are for everybody. Companies can serve roads if they want, on the mission of the representatives of the public, and then keep what the representatives deem fit in taxpayer payment.
@elfornse Would you seriously want to go to a hospital or a bank or advertise at a television station that did not have the ability to comply with any regulations?
@underbjorn „Socially Acceptable Areas“…..
Why is it that a road is not a socially acceptable area?
Why is it that the water supply is not a socially acceptable area?
Why does the Government, who’s job it is to encourage competition, threaten me with violence if I tried to compete with them in these areas?
Im not even suggesting here that they stop providing roads or water, Im simply asking why do they refuse to let me to compete with them if its their job to promote competition??
bp says its all cleaned up but it all sunk to the ocean floor
Power gives the illusion of a lasting existence…irony is, those with power are aware of their mortality…in turn consuming at an alarming rate…it’s insanity…
It is without a doubt a case to be questioned for its penalization role.
This planet is surrounded by nothingness for lightyears… We can’t fuck up this place or we are screwed.. Fuck oil
@AnotherNutJob Apparently, staying in power is more important to them than the betterment of our species…
Greedy bastards.
it’s as unclear as mud.
@kcvillain87 If we crowd people too much, we get too much crime. Regardless, I’m pro-nuclear energy, which is super-efficient. The only problem is meltdown possibility, but we’re not supposed to build them on fault lines or tectonic plate edges (Japan) or even coastal regions, and we have to keep them safe from terrorists and criminals. Otherwise, really good idea.
Plus, Americans seem rather adventurous, so we travel a lot. Then there’s the traffic factor.
@rhinnawi95 I agree with you 100%. After WWII the US began to develop cities into sprawling suburban systems which does not support efficient use of energy. It creates an environment where more people travel farther distances at higher frequencies than a smaller localized community. One way to reduce our consumption of oil would be to change our lifestyles so that our home, work and necessities are all located within closer proximity. This is one of the issues that urban designers face today.
Oil companies keep buying up all the clean energy tech patents just to put them on a shelf to continue their energy monopoly.
@kcvillain87 And then there’s the size (land) factor. In the US. people generally travel farther to get to their destination, and with very populated cities comes traffic. That is a much smaller problem in Sweden (and yes, cars not moving because of traffic are still consuming gas).
@geargemartin Haha, I’m glad I’m not alone on this.
@rhinnawi95 Yep, that was my impression also. I guess teliniti5 is a little confused.
If we had real leadership, this wouldn’t have gotten out of hand. We need a JFK to tell us that we are going to do something within the next period of time because we choose to, not someone who’s going to put 100% of the blame on BP (who is also at fault, don’t get me wrong) and deny the help of 13 other countries with experiences with such disasters.
I’d rather look back at the moon landing in 1969 than this.
@geargemartin No, he enstated a moratorium and failed to do his job properly when the catastrophe hit. He, in no way, is a Republican.
Media reports and the hysteria following that, suggested that the entire Gulf was contaminated, but the pictures suggest that the spill was contained to a rather well defined area.
@telinit5 Obama is a Republican?!?
@COLOMBEtomoko UFO… Yea, umm… About that… While I don’t necessarily like to cut people to pieces, but NASA isn’t in the business of non-sense.
@geargemartin You have republicans and the ignorant public to thank for that.
If NASA had better budget they could find/discover something better then oil, and there would be no oil spill. It would be better to spend money for needs of NASA then for Libya.
If a human being catches one UFO alive, all the human beings are free using electricity free of charge. Nuclear power generation, good-bye. Hang in there Endeavour is the splendid work in your last!
@kcvillain87 That’s a really stupid comment. What are you, 4?
…not unlike the comforter factory on the moon ,
~which got wacked for some strange reason by a big copper nuke
Is there anywhere on the web where we can see published photos of the Earth from Space?
…so much oil specially for US,what are they doing in Libya…
@geargemartin What do you mean? In 10 or 20 years (if all goes well) they may have the same space flight capability that they had in the 60′s.